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Post by hpf on May 14, 2007 10:35:59 GMT -5
Dave Elevator swept to armlocked his opponent in Japan this past weekend. His opponent did not like that so he kicked him in the face.
vid coming soon
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Post by tonykovalov on May 14, 2007 14:06:20 GMT -5
Go dave!
What kind of event was this?
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Post by hpf on May 14, 2007 15:46:53 GMT -5
a BJJ event in japan but I guess it was brazilian run
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Post by daexhbjj on May 15, 2007 1:58:53 GMT -5
so who was his competition?
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Post by Freaky Jon on May 15, 2007 14:59:48 GMT -5
Where's the vid dude?
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Post by hpf on May 15, 2007 16:18:50 GMT -5
he hasnt posted it yet
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Post by SPF on May 18, 2007 2:06:06 GMT -5
VIDEO!!!!!!!!! d**n, I need to see that.
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Post by hpf on May 18, 2007 11:51:18 GMT -5
i will get after him
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Post by Freaky Jon on May 21, 2007 15:02:38 GMT -5
I'm more excited to see the kick to the face than the armbar.  |
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Post by blindwonder on Oct 18, 2007 23:27:34 GMT -5
I just saw the video and Dave is.....a complete asss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It really bummed me out because since he is a friend of the academy, I was rooting for him and excited to see his victory, but when he purposely (very purposely...that guy was tapping and screaming for a while) broke that guys arm, I just thought that was so unnecessary and it left a bad taste in my mouth.  I've seen Jacare hurt peoples arms, but he always releases as soon as the guy taps(or yells). Dave was clearly trying to hurt that guy and held on way too long. Having said that, I have to say the guy looked really smooth and set up a really nice inverted armlock inspite of being a weenie. www.youtube.com/watch?v=R602yHp4nuQP.S. If someone can justify what he did...please educate me cause I want to admire the guy. |
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Post by blindwonder on Oct 18, 2007 23:42:00 GMT -5
you know...I was just watching the ending in loop mode and I might need to retract that previous statement.
He does hold on a little long (the guy is screaming for about 2 sec)
but maybe with all the adrenaline...I don't know. I guess I've seen worse.
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Post by armbar on Oct 19, 2007 20:15:19 GMT -5
uhh! i don't understand what was wrong,except for the fact that Dave was kicked in the head.when u compete this happens.Dave also checked on the guy to make sure he was fine.  |
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Post by blindwonder on Oct 19, 2007 20:52:50 GMT -5
uhh! i don't understand what was wrong.... when u compete this happens. Your statement is exactly why it was wrong...especially for Dave to do that. Let me elaborate. Competition is about winning and submitting your opponent. However, when your opponent taps or yells, the fight is over. You won. It's that simple. There is no justification to purposely break someones arm after they have already surrendered. It is even worse for Dave because he is a published author and has a bunch of students that look up to him, and they will just say what you just said..."When you compete..this happens". That is a terrible attitude to have and it's not good for the sport. I do want to beat my opponent. I do want to submit my opponent, but I don't want to hurt my opponent after they have already surrendered. That is just horrible. Look, if the guy didn't tap and Dave broke his arm...that would be cool and I would respect Dave for his desire to win. If Dave put the armlock on really quick and snapped the guys arm before he could tap...O.K. Then I would agree with your statement that when people compete, accidents happen. But again, when the guy is yelling and screaming and Dave continues to pull on the guys arm after he surrendered, you just can't justify that with "When you compete...this happens". Sorry, I don't agree with you. |
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Post by daexhbjj on Oct 21, 2007 15:18:58 GMT -5
i didn't think he held on for really long and the guy wasn't tapping until the roll. Also, it seemed like a very subtle tap and in situations like that when adrenaline is pumping you can't feel the tap or even when it isn't you can barely feel it.
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Post by armbar on Oct 21, 2007 15:36:43 GMT -5
hmm! i have seen people screaming in tournaments witch has caused the opponent to let go of his grip,and guess what?the fight continued.unless the guy taps...u dont let go. I know this to well,since i had to break a guys arm once.also Japanese by the way they are known not to tap.
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